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Three Christian Objections and Muslim Responses: History

 

Muslims think: Christian Objection: Muslim Response: Christian Action:
Jesus (peace be upon him) is not a god but a prophet (of Submission to Allah – i.e. Islam) Qur’an came 600 years after Jesus (peace be upon him) so it is less reliable than the sayings of St Paul (together with the gospels) If Muhammad (peace be upon him) is a prophet, it is irrelevant that the Qur’an came 600 years afterwards in terms of reliability. Reliability is derived from his being a prophet of God. Determine by researching a plurality of histories (not just anti-Muslim ones!) about Muhammad (peace be upon him) to decide was he actually a prophet. Does he share similar traits as the prophets from the Old Testament? Some have commentated that there are remnants of prophecies about him in the Bible itself (see here). If he is a Prophet – which he clearly was – one must consider his words seriously. And since he is the Last Prophet, his time is now.
“But he is the Messenger of Allah and the last (end) of the Prophets” [Qur’an 33:40]
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Some Christians think: Christian Objection: Muslim Response: Christian Action:
The gospels are historically problematic. There are inconsistencies with the history vis-a-vis the gospels 1) In the event that we do not have any counter history or evidence, means that we must make do with what we have (i.e. the Paulian narrative) – or reject all of it totally; the latter is ludricous if you’re a believer in God. 2) These historians are secularists and don’t know the truth of the Unseen (and they have their own agenda). 1) We do have a counter history for believers in God – via the Muslim tradition that continued to promote the Early Christians’ message that died out via the Trinitarians. 2) Let us see what can be established materially, and consider if there are links with other narratives from sacred history (i.e. Biblical and Islamic history that does not negate the Unseen). Compare how the Muslim tradition of Jesus (peace be upon him) links up remarkably with the secular history of the early Jewish-Christians and the early Jerusalem Church.

Conclusion: Consider the Muslim account (revelation, history, enterprise) positively and seriously.

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Secular historians
Some Christians think: Christian Objection: Muslim Response: Christian Action:
The seerah tradition (Muslim history of the Prophet, peace be upon him) is historically problematic. Our only source of history about Muhammad (peace be upon him) is from the Muslims, which must be doubted. There is nothing to corroborate the Muslim narrative. 1) We do have histories from other traditions; 2) some non-Muslim histories are unreliable because of their blatant lies (propaganda, agenda); 3) consider the rigour for truth promoted both in the Qur’an and Sunnah – and the early Muslim intellectual enterprise; 4) these ultra critical historians follow a secularist line of thinking and don’t consider the truth of the Unseen in their analysis (and they have their own agenda); 5 and so, in the name of Truth, let us see what can be established materially, and consider if there are links with other narratives from sacred history (i.e. Biblical and Islamic history that does not negate the Unseen) – but bear in mind that the Qur’an regards itself as ‘the Criterion’ (al-Furqan) and Overseer of all other Worldviews (uniquely and explicitly stated in the Qur’an 4:105). When weighing out the evidence, consider how do we handle the fact that if we cannot trust the Muslim narrative at all – as supposed by ultra sceptics, we are left with pure conjecture, which is equally unhistorical and, therefore, inadequate. Moreover, what are the chances for a Prophet with world-changing dynamo to come out of a region from the Arabian remoteness moments prior to the invention of the Book (i.e. al-Qur’an was the first book of the Arabs) and then the explosion of the written word (i.e. historical records) thereafter in that culture/region? (The ‘miraculous’ nature of this can be viewed as yet another proof for him (– where we are forced – in the main – to weigh through the Muslim record for this period,)

Conclusion: don’t reject the Seerah tradition (nor the hadith tradition that might authenticate it some more) out of hand. See this ‘Intro to Hadiths‘ and this on the ‘Early Hadiths‘.

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Ultra critical secular historians*
* Tom Holland is a recent historian who has questioned normative Muslim history of the Prophet (peace be upon him), whose work has been critiqued, here. He relies on Crone and Cook’s earlier historical works (notably ‘Hagarism’), which they themselves have rejected as highly problematic later in their own careers.

 

 

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Release: A Critical Analysis of Jay Smith’s Mistakes About the Qur’an

“Christian apologists in response to this weakening of their scripture, are now attempting to weaken the stature of the Qur’an’s preservation. Muslims for centuries, since the Qur’an’s revelation have held strongly to the belief that it is God who would guard the transmission and preservation of the Qur’an as is mentioned explicitly in Surah 15, Verse 9…

Christian apologists have challenged the Muslim world to apply their methodology of Textual Criticism to the Qur’an, so that we may establish that the dismal state of the New Testament manuscript record is on par with the Qur’an’s.

Unbeknownst to them, Muslims have been practising stringent critical studies of the Qur’an’s manuscript tradition since its revelation. For centuries before the development of New Testament Textual Criticism as it is known today, Muslims have been utilising the science of ‘Uloom al Qur’an (the sciences of the Qur’an). One such field within ‘Uloom al Qur’an is ‘Ilm al Rasm al Mushaf, or the Science of the Writing of the Copies of the Qur’an…”

You’ve got to read this!

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Alhamdulillah, the paper is complete and can now both be viewed, and downloaded via Scribd:

Question and Answer:

  1. Did you write this all by yourself?Yes, I did. However along the way I had several brothers read it, authenticate my arguments, proof read it, criticise it, give suggestions, validate quotes, etc. This included Br. Waqar Cheema and Br. Ahmed Shaker.
  2. Were you asked to do this refutation?No, I was not asked to do this. I decided to do it after watching the debate and being annoyed at Jay’s dishonesty.
  3. Do you have Dan’s unpublished thesis?Yes, I do.
  4. Were you paid to produce this work?I was not paid for this work.
  5. How many words is this paper?The paper has 23, 908 words. It consists of 53 pages.
  6. Are you going to charge a fee for the paper?No, that has not crossed my mind and I don’t think it will.
  7. Why did it…

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The Post-Revelatory Age and its Discontents…

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1. The End of the Revelatory Age

There is an account that tells us how the Companions of the Prophet (s), Abu Bakr and Umar (r), visited a woman who was crying after the Prophet (s) had died.  After trying to console her by saying the Prophet (s) was in the better place in the Afterlife than this worldly life, she explained that with his death, that sublime link to God that our Prophet (s) was graced with (vis-a-vis revelation – a portal of communication from the divine) – had now ceased – forever – in our mortal life-times. On hearing this, both Abu Bakr and Umar (r), realising the significance of her words, joined her in a flood of tears.1

But wait! When we hear of this account, we believe we too understand the significance of her words. We assume – ‘Yes I got it! I understand. This account is simply relaying how where once God spoke to the Prophet and thereby to the Companions of the Prophet, at the time – and so indirectly to us… well, now, that is no longer the case.’

Hmm…

Yes? No? This explanation actually adds nothing to the sheer magnitude of what had just happened. Think for a moment… Continue reading

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Incredible New Manuscript Discovery Attests to the Preservation of the Qur’an.

For those (religionists/non-religionists) interested in Truth – please consider and process the implication that only one of the revealed holy books that we possess currently has been (secularly/historically) verified to be entirely consistent with the one given to its respective Prophet: The Old Testament, the New Testament or the Qur’an?

Many Prophets, One Message

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“Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur’an and indeed, We will be its guardian.” [Qur’an, chapter 15, verse 9]

God Almighty blessed His final revelation, the Qur’an, with something that was not bestowed on any of the prior Scriptures, by promising to protect and preserve it from any corruption. You might be wondering, how can such a bold claim be true in light of what we know about the consistent and unfailing corruption of previous religious Scriptures throughout history?

Muslims today have no doubt about the perfect preservation of the Qur’an. The primary means of preserving the Qur’an has, and always will be, through memorisation. We have an oral tradition of memorisation spanning nearly 1,500 years that has seen the Qur’an being passed down from teacher to student in an unbroken chain going all the way back to Prophet Muhammad himself, peace be upon him. You can read…

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Muhammad Tim Humble: Journey to Islam

This 30 minute autobiographical account charts how Tim Humble went from rebellious schoolchild of modernity to a seeker of (eternal) knowledge. He ends up studying at the Islamic University of Medina.

At 19:01: he talks about if God revealed a book – it would probably look and sound like the Qur’an.

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The Greatest Name of God… is

Did Allah reveal the name YHWH in the Qur’an?

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Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) In The Bible 2 [Prophets 4 of 4]

Please check: Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in the Bible (1 of 2)

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