On Facebook, Jesse Smith said:
“…Moral “truth” changes with time, else slavery and executions of adultery, among others, would continue. We dont need an ancient book or vague ideas of a celestial overmind to know what is moral, especially when the ancient books morals are selected for by humans as we go. The 4th surah is good evidence of this, as is the punishment for unbelief, as are much of the laws of the Old Testament- for every beautiful verse like u quoted there are others that are shockingly cruel. These books can be a guide, thrown aside when needed and adapted when needed.
Our civilisation has depended on this ability to discern its value, and as we rely on it less and less we have greater freedom and happiness than ever before.
The answer to preventing nuclear war is not faith however, which has a history of fermenting war and rarely preventing it, but more and better science to safeguard that which we have, and limiting the causes for war in general which tends to be poverty and ideological divison- two things religion tends to encourage. So the answer is not less science and more ancient faith based guidance, I would argue.”
The points Paul Williams makes here are valid in themselves, and I’d invite you to take a look. And here, he talks about how Western Christians have themselves become secularised. I just wanted to extend this point to a different conclusion.
There was a time when the Greek-speaking (polytheistic) world made in-roads into the Judaic (monotheistic) one. As a result, some Jews became Hellenised. Who were the Hellenised Jews? And is there a warning, here, for us, nowadays?
“‘Christianity is about love.’
“How many times do we hear Christians say Christianity is all about love?
“But, what happens when somebody Bob mistakenly thinks is a Christian, when in fact he’s a Muslim… What was Bob’s response? When a Christian comes and says, ‘Look, this is not Christianity, you know it should be about love.’:
“‘Oh you’re a weak Christian.’
“What did he mean?”
“…He said [about] Muslims [that] when we look in the New and the Old Testament and we see something we like, we’ll use it, and [when] we see something we don’t like or doesn’t agree with what we believe as Muslims, we’ll reject it; and then he says, the Muslims ‘cherry-pick’ [from] the New and the Old Testament…
Can I tell you why, Bob? I’m sure you must have heard it said before.
The Qur’an is clear: you’ve corrupted your books! Continue reading
As part of an endeavour to try and unpack what we mean by ‘Modernity’, it might prove useful to distinguish a series of warnings about what to avoid when trying to be a Real, Living-It Muslim (i.e. a Mu’min – Believer).
4. An Introduction to the extraordinary similarity between early Jewish-Christianity and what Islam teaches… The original teaching that connects us to Allah, Most HIgh, is brought back in Islam.
A Paul (Bilal) Williams medley begins: