The atheists talk (in this video) about the need for evidence(s) for God, which is a good and reasonable point. And because of a supposition that, “there is none”, they conclude: there is no God.
(See God Focussed or Self Focussed to see how Evidences for (or against) God can be (or can’t be) gleaned based on our perspectives. How can we be conclusive about the answer to this question? (See a later post, pending.) But the point that must be acknowledged is that there are evidences being proposed; not that there are no evidences for God.
ALLAH, Most Exalted, says:
“And on the earth are signs for the certain [in faith]
And in yourselves. Then will you not see?
And in the heaven is your provision and whatever you are promised.
Then by the Lord of the heaven and earth, indeed, it is truth – just as [sure as] it is that you are speaking.” (Qur’an, Adh-Dhariyat 51: 20-23)
الحمد لله والصلاة والسلام على رسول الله
All praise is due to ALLAH and peace and blessing upon His Messenger
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
In the Name of Allah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful
When asked (in the video) if the atheists would listen to ‘reasonable evidence’, they replied that they would.
The Interviewer proceeded to present a roundabout articulation of the ‘argument from design’ in terms of how everything came to be (i.e. a construct of God).
He focussed on DNA, which is our ‘biological code’ that defines who we are – that is to say, ‘an instruction book for life’; this book is ‘pre-written’ in our DNA.
So, the Interviewer asked, “Is it possible to have a book of DNA devised without a ‘book-maker’?” Can a book make itself? That is, from nothing?
“It would be like saying an explosion caused everything that makes a 747 airplane to all just come together by accident without some intelligent thought behind it,” answered a respondent.
Precisely. (NOTE: Please also see the video, below, for this idea of a vehicle coming together by accident, in summary form.)
The counterpoint here, of course, is: “It (material existence) developed over the course of many, many millenia of evolution and development,” which another respondent proposed.
Unlike Christian Creationists, Muslims don’t necessarily have a problem with Evolution ( – See Here – ) so the appearance of a binary conflict between Science and Faith is actually a false notion, as far as Muslims are concerned; there is zero conflict for Muslims between Science and Faith!
Regardless, we are entitled to ask, what exactly was the trigger point for Evolution in the first place? What set this ‘evolution’ off ? Can something come from nothing? And the necessary logical answer is (obviously):
This is the point.
But the Atheist hedges around this question, adament either not to answer it, or to problematise the question by claiming why must it be asked at all, maintaining that it is asked based upon a presumption that there is a Creator. What they fail to comprehend is that God is the only logical answer to a necessary question for anyone who thinks (reflects/ asks questions seeking answers) about something arising from nothing.
Because only “nothing comes from nothing.” (Ex nihilo nihil fit.)
There has been efforts by the likes of Kraus and Hawking to define ‘nothing’ as ‘something’ – that is to say that materially speaking, there was never ‘nothing’. This will take us to a scenario of an infinite regress, where we will have to determine how did the ‘nothing-that-is-actually-something’ come to be (because it is something… and not really nothing).
The Atheistic beginning to this discussion is intrinsically an illogical one with the assumption that something can come from nothing (or something can come from ‘nothing-that-is-actually-something’ – i.e. why did the ‘nothing-that-is-actually-something’ come to be?).
We have the ability to ask ‘Why?’ and for everything there is an answer to ‘why’. But Atheists would have us believe that for the ultimate ‘Why?’ there is no answer. Except perhaps a ‘Why not?’ which, of course, is sophistry. They ask, ‘Why must we ask ‘Why?’ for the origin of the universe, and conclude there is no reason, there is no meaning despite us wanting to attribute one. The universe is riddled with empty rocks floating around for no reason. And yet amongst this deep, black space of orbiting rocks, is one set of beings (humankind) who are hard-wired to meaning. (See Born Atheist or Born Muslim.) Atheists see our existence amongst the vast emptiness of space as evidence for our meaninglessness. But the theist sees our existence amongst the vast emptiness of space as a miracle and pregnant with meaning.The Islamic answer is as follows:
“And I created not the Jinn and Mankind except that they should worship Me (Alone).” (Qur’an, Adh-Dhariyat 51:56)
“And We have certainly honoured the children of Adam and carried them on the land and sea and provided for them of the good things and preferred them over much of what We have created, with (definite) preference.” (Qur’an, Al-Isra 17:70)
“Did you think that We had created you in vain (without any purpose), and that you would not be brought back to us?” (Qur’an, Al-Mu’minun 23;115)
We use the evidence (witnessed) that everything that has ever existed has always had a cause, to conclude that material existence was caused. An argument used against this is to say since we weren’t around at the beginning, and material existence had not yet been ’caused’, how can we assume the stage before that would mirror the habits of the material world (i.e. to be caused)? But what we would reply is that this evidence from material existence is simulatenously probable, possible and meaningful. Interestingly, some Atheists posit evolution (survival of the fittest) as the motivatory force for existence. Since, presently, this principle can be witnessed within material existence, this idea is then utilised backwards to explain how the origin of the universe began as part and parcel of this evolutionary process. And yet, this evolutionary principle could then be said to pre-exist material existence, in which case, it is still ‘something’. Regardless, assuming this to be the case, the ‘survival of the fittest’ principle can be said to be an extension of Power, manifest – and as such can (Islamically) be demonstrated to be a command from one or two of the Ninety Nine Names and Attributes of ALLAH: Al-Qadir (The All-Powerful) and Al-Muqtadir (The Creator of All Power).
What caused the big explosion (of the Big Bang)? “And why is there incredible order from that explosion?” asks the Interviewer. If it is true that the universe is meaningless, why does it operate to (meaningful) laws? Laws are signs of intelligence.
“By His command He has made the night and day, the sun, moon, and stars all of benefit to you. There truly are signs in this for those who use their reason.” (Qur’an, Al-Nahl 16:12)
“Every explosion, I’ve heard of” continues the Interviewer, “creates chaos, not order.”
The implication is twofold: a) we require an uncaused cause to end or explain the problem of infinite regress and b) we need to explain the genius of design (i.e the cosmos instead of chaos).
The answer that a) the Universe (including notions of a pre-existing multiverse having) always existed is more of a copout than b) God always existed. This is because unlike the Universe (which is yet another material existent), God is defined by Being the One Who a) Creates/ is a Designer1, b) is The Uncaused Cause1,2, c) Exists beyond time and space (i.e. material existence)3 and d) is the Master of time and space (i.e. material existence)4; this Islamic definition of God is precisely the most cogent answer.
Qur’an/ Sunnah Evidences:
1 “Originator of the heavens and the earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, “Be,” and it is.” (Qur’an, Al-Baqarah 2:117)
2 “Say, ‘He is Allah, [who is] One [The Unique],
Allah, the Samad*.
He neither begets nor is born.'” (Qur’an, Al-Ikhlas 112: 1-3)
* = The Eternal Refuge; Samad means that thing or one that has no need and dependency while needed by and depended upon by everything else. See Contemplate the Qur’an for a fuller explanation.
3 “And there is nothing comparable to Him.'” (Qur’an, Al-Ikhlas 112: 4)
4 Al-Bukhari (4826) and Muslim (2246) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may ALLAH be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of ALLAH be upon him) said: “The son of Adam offends Me. He inveighs against ad-dahr, but I am ad-dahr, in My hand is control, I alternate the night and day.”
Ibn Taymiyah (may ALLAH have mercy on him) said:
The words in the hadith, “in My hand is control, I alternate the night and day” confirm that what is meant is not time (zaman), because ALLAH tells us that He alternates the night and day, and time (zaman) is night and day. The same hadith indicates that it is He who alternates and controls time, as is indicated by the verse in which ALLAH, may He be exalted, says:
“ALLAH causes the night and the day to succeed each other (i.e. if the day is gone, the night comes, and if the night is gone, the day comes, and so on). Truly, in these things is indeed a lesson for those who have insight” (Qur’an, An-Noor 24:44.)
The video, here, is better titled: ‘Creation Explained in 45 seconds according to Atheists’.
The Interviewer suggests that the analogy of the book (from the first film, above) is also useful in making a comparison where the idea that a book that came to exist by chance is infinitely less sillier than the notion that the ‘DNA book for life’ came to exist by chance or haphazardly (given that the latter is necessarily more complex than the former; the odds, therefore, is greater.)
All this makes sense.
This video identifies some gaps in the Atheistic worldview. The video is good in outlining (briefly) the significance of the argument from design. However, when the Interviewer mentions ‘Intelligent Design’ and he means the pseudo-science of ‘Intelligent Design’ of the Christian Creationists, then this troubles me – and (I MUST STATE:) this is not being proposed by this post!
This ‘Intelligent Design’ discipline tries to make itself needlessly ‘scientific’ as if this will somehow add validation to the points being made. Intelligent Design ought to really to a philosophical (or metaphysical) answer. Those that worship science ardently (i.e. positivists) need to appreciate that science is a tool that assists man to understand Creation (a gift from the Creator); it is not an ends in itself (in which case it has been deified – and will never yield the answer that is sought by this specific question) because it has been constructed by its adherents into a false god. And false gods, by definition, cannot be depended on like The True God (because they, of themselves, have no intrinsic power). Its remit is the material zone and since God (ALLAH) is Greater than that, science will never be able to fully grasp the complete nature of The Infinite.
And yet the argument from Design is one argument amongst others that still makes a strong proof for God (ALLAH). However, the reality is there is no need to prove God Exists because the Prophets did not come to prove that God exists; they came to 1) warn us about the inevitability of our meeting with Him on the Judgement Day, where we have to show Him an account of our deeds. and 2) to give glad tidings to those that strive (with their efforts in life) to do good purely for Him alone (by worship and devotion to Him alone, as He instructed us via the Prophets, culminating in the Last Prophet). You are obligated to seek out the Message of the Last Prophet (before its too late) if you are an earnest person.
“(Messengers) Who gave glad tidings as well as warning; so that mankind, after the coming of these Messengers, may have no plea against ALLAH, the Exalted in Power, the Wise.” (Qur’an, An-NIsa 4:165)
The fact is ALLAH Exists. But can you prove yourself?
سبحان ربك رب العزة عما يصفون وسلام على المرسلين والحمد لله رب العالمين والصلاة والسلام على رسول الله محمد وعلى اله وصحبه أجمعين
Exalted be your Lord, the Lord of Glory, above what they attribute to Him, and peace be upon the Messengers, and all praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Universe. And the peace and blessing upon prophet Mohammed and his relatives and all his companions.